12 episodes

This is Wild About Kinder, the podcast for anyone curious about Kinder Scout in the Peak District.

Each episode will bring you interviews with people who appreciate the Kinder Scout landscape. I will ask guests about why they love it here, what makes it special and unique to them, and how their personal experiences relate to a sense of connection. My aims are to create an accessible resource for people to listen to stories, to learn about important issues in a relatable and engaging way, and to bring together a feeling of community.

There will be unique questions for each guest, but every person interviewed will be asked: "What makes you wild about Kinder Scout?" This will provide a nice collection of different responses throughout the making of the show.

Alec Boyd and Gabby Wolstenholme from The Northern Project worked with me on series 1 of this podcast, which was supported by the Peak District National Park Communities Small Grants Scheme.

The show is available to listen to completely free, anywhere that you can find podcasts. You can also download each episode as an MP3.

Wild About Kinder Sarah Lister

    • Society & Culture

This is Wild About Kinder, the podcast for anyone curious about Kinder Scout in the Peak District.

Each episode will bring you interviews with people who appreciate the Kinder Scout landscape. I will ask guests about why they love it here, what makes it special and unique to them, and how their personal experiences relate to a sense of connection. My aims are to create an accessible resource for people to listen to stories, to learn about important issues in a relatable and engaging way, and to bring together a feeling of community.

There will be unique questions for each guest, but every person interviewed will be asked: "What makes you wild about Kinder Scout?" This will provide a nice collection of different responses throughout the making of the show.

Alec Boyd and Gabby Wolstenholme from The Northern Project worked with me on series 1 of this podcast, which was supported by the Peak District National Park Communities Small Grants Scheme.

The show is available to listen to completely free, anywhere that you can find podcasts. You can also download each episode as an MP3.

    Kinder Scout: A hill that’s not about the summit - Interview with writer Andrew Terrill

    Kinder Scout: A hill that’s not about the summit - Interview with writer Andrew Terrill

    “I love to imagine I’m back home on the hill that started it all for me, even though it’s worlds apart.” In this interview we listen to Andrew Terrill’s memories of walking, running and bivvying on Kinder Scout and why these experiences have had such a powerful and lasting impact in his life. He says that being in nature gave him the confidence to be himself.
    You’ll soon be able to tell that Andrew is a writer because of the way that he expresses himself and shares his anecdotes. He is a wonderful storyteller and reflects on his memories of Kinder with fondness. He says that he misses wandering in the mist, the sideways rain and the bogs squelching underfoot and being cold and damp.
    This interview is entertaining, heart-warming and inspiring. We hear from a man who shares openly and generously about how his journeys have changed him. There’s an air of curiosity and playfulness to his storytelling that I think you’ll find really engaging. 
    Andrew has written two books: The Earth Beneath My Feet (published June 1, 2021) and On Sacred Ground (published October 1, 2022). The books take readers on a 7,000-mile wilderness walk into the heart of wild nature. He also writes regularly on his blog which he describes as an outdoor diary, and shares beautiful photography. 
    Links
    Visit Andrew’s website
    Buy his books 
    Follow Andrew on Instagram
    Follow Andrew on Facebook
    Contact Andrew here
    References
    Article - An Ode to Kinder Scout
    (First published in TGO, August 2005)
    Mountain Walks Kinder Scout 
    Blog article - Acting my age
    Kinder Log by T. Nelthorpe (Cicerone, 1987)
    Recording date
    This interview was recorded online on 21st February 2024.

    Host & Production
    By Sarah Lister, About The Adventure

    Contact the host
    You can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.

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    Send in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions.
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    Share your favourite episodes by tagging @about.the.adventure on Instagram @ABTheAdventure on Twitter, and use the hashtag #WildAboutKinder. Thank you!

    • 1 hr 3 min
    Entering a different realm on the gnarly ground of Kinder Scout - Interview with musician Bella Hardy

    Entering a different realm on the gnarly ground of Kinder Scout - Interview with musician Bella Hardy

    What does it smell like when you're sitting up on Kinder Scout Plateau? ‘Patron of the Bog’ Bella Hardy describes it as sweet and earthy. During this episode she shares memories of growing up in Edale, ‘beating the bounds’ with the local community, stories about sleeping dragons and giants from her childhood, and reflects on what makes her wild about Kinder. It’s a place that both inspires her music and gives her brain a break. You’ll hear Bella play the fiddle - ‘Broadlee Bank’ and ‘Crowden jig’ at the beginning and the end of this interview.
    Bella is a folk musician, with many of her songs inspired by the landscape and folk tales of the Peak District. The ‘Dark Peak and The White’ album is her first collection of music specifically from the area, with adaptations and new tunes to works from ‘The Ballads and Songs of Derbyshire’ published 1867, and original songs written for the history, folklore and legends of the area. Bella attended Edale CE Primary School and Hope Valley College and earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in English literature from York St John University in 2005 and a Master of Music degree from the University of Newcastle in 2007. You can read more about Bella on her website.
    Listen now to find out why Bella thinks Kinder Scout is a unique place.
    Links
    Bella’s website
    Follow Bella on Instagram
    Listen to Bella’s songs on Spotify
    Follow Bella on Bandcamp
    References
    The Dark Peak and The White
    With the dawn
    First light of the morning
    Hares on the Mountain
    Loving Hannah 
    Africa’s Mountains of the moon by Guy Yeoman
    Moors For The Future 
    Recording date
    This interview was recorded at Bella’s home in Edale on 15th January 2024.
    Host & Production
    By Sarah Lister, About The Adventure
    Contact the host
    You can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.
    Get involved with the conversation
    Send in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions.
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    • 56 min
    Kinder Scout: the true understanding of sublime - Interview with writer Paul Besley and his dog Scout

    Kinder Scout: the true understanding of sublime - Interview with writer Paul Besley and his dog Scout

    Kinder Scout is Paul’s favourite place. In this interview he describes why it’s special to him and why he thinks it’s loved by others. He poses the question: “How can something that has taken lives and can be so threatening and violent be beautiful?” Paul shares timeless stories and reflections that will both capture and hold your attention. If you’re familiar with the landscape and nature of Kinder then you’ll undoubtedly find yourself nodding and smiling to yourself while you listen. This will be an episode to return to time and time again, and will leave you wanting more!
    Paul Besley is a writer who lives in Sheffield. His books include, Day Walks in the South Pennines and 1001 Walking Tips for Vertebrate Publishing, and three Peak District guidebooks for Cicerone Press. He has also written for outdoor magazines. For many years Paul volunteered as a ranger for the Peak District National Park. He was also a team member of Woodhead Mountain Rescue, and a dog handler in Mountain Rescue Search Dogs England with his Border Collie, Scout. 
    Listen now to find out why Paul thinks Kinder Scout is magical!
    Links
    Paul Besley’s story about when he fell off a mountain
    Paul Besley on Mountain Walking Newbies podcast: Episode 1, Episode 2, Episode 3.
    References
    Scout on Twitter and Instagram
    Doug Scott obituary in The Guardian
    Henry Moore
    Mark Richards
    Cicerone
    Andrew Beavers
    Recording date
    This interview was recorded inside a barn at Lee Farm along the start of the Pennine Way towards Jacobs Ladder on Kinder Scout, on Friday 3rd November 2023. 
    Host & Production
    By Sarah Lister, About The Adventure
    Contact the host
    You can email a href="mailto:sarah@sarahventurer.com" rel="noopener noreferrer"...

    • 57 min
    A mooch about Kinder Scout - Interview with Director of Creative Arts Wayne Fallon

    A mooch about Kinder Scout - Interview with Director of Creative Arts Wayne Fallon

    Kinder Scout has a special place in Wayne’s psyche. When he was a child, his father would drive regularly along the snake pass. Due to unreliable automotive mechanics they often had to take pit stops along the pass. At the time he was reading passages of Lord of the Rings to Wayne and images of the misty Snake Wood and views of Fairbrook Naze made quite an impression on this estate kid from the North West. Since then, Wayne has had many adventures on Kinder Scout and he’s on a mission to represent this beguiling place in his artwork.
    In this interview, Wayne shares how terrifying tall tales and snatch sightings of Kinder Scout from afar captured his imagination and ignited his curiosity. He shares with us how, in contrast, he feels when he’s having a mooch and an amble on Kinder Scout these days; what he learns about the landscape by drawing it and how an appreciation of the practice of historical and contemporary landscape artists informs his thinking, painting and teaching practice. 
    Wayne is Director of Creative Arts at Redhill Academy Trust and Head of Art at Brookfield Community School.
    This interview was recorded in four parts. We met at the Winter Gardens in Sheffield for coffee and lunch before heading to a Millenium Gallery store for a private tour of a selection of stunning landscape art exhibitions selected by Wayne. A few weeks later we met in Edale for a short walk on Kinder Scout where we recorded outside close to Jacob’s Ladder. Finally, we met at the Penny Pot Cafe in Edale for a sketching tutorial and lots of coffee! 
    Wayne’s links
    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/waynefallon/
    Twitter https://twitter.com/MrWFallon
    LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/wayne-fallon-55586a269/
    References
    Millennium Gallery in Sheffield https://www.sheffieldmuseums.org.uk/visit-us/millennium-gallery/Paul Henry - Rain on the bog paintingRobert Macfarlane “Wild Places”Simon Schama “Landscape and Memory”Peak District Artisans https://www.peakdistrictartisans.co.uk/Norman Ackroyd http://www.normanackroyd.com/John Newland https://www.birchamgallery.co.uk/catalogue/artist/John:Newland/biography/Heaton Cooper Gallery https://www.heatoncooper.co.uk/Penny Pot Cafe in Edale https://pennypotcafe.com/
    Recording dates
    This interview was recorded at:
    Winter Gardens in Sheffield and Millennium Gallery store on 2nd August 2023Kinder Scout on 28th August 2023Penny Pot Cafe on 9th September 2023
    Host & Production
    By Sarah Lister, About The Adventure
    Contact the host
    You can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your feedback...

    • 51 min
    Exploring hags and groughs on Kinder Scout - Interview with Clare Kelly from Her on a Hill

    Exploring hags and groughs on Kinder Scout - Interview with Clare Kelly from Her on a Hill

    Kinder Scout was Clare’s first ever walk in the Peak District and she’s been back many times  since then. In this interview she shares the joy that she feels while walking and teaching navigation here and what it’s like to bring other people here who don’t feel confident to explore alone.
    Clare is a qualified Mountain Leader and National Navigation Award Scheme Course Director. She has worked in the outdoor industry for over 20 years. She began her outdoor career working as a walking guide for Exodus, and later for Walking Women. In 2016, she set up Navigation for Women to help women develop new skills, gain confidence in their map and compass reading and put these skills into practice in the hills of the UK. Having long dreamt about running her own walking company for women, she set up Her on a Hill in 2019 to offer a range of guided walking holidays, navigation courses, and guided day walks and workshops.
    Listen now to find out what makes Clare feel wild about Kinder.
    Links
    Her on a Hill
    Navigation for Women
    Recording date
    This interview was recorded at Madwoman’s Stones, Kinder Scout, on 16th June 2023.
    Host & Production
    By Sarah Lister, About The Adventure
    Contact the host
    You can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.
    Get involved with the conversation
    Send in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions.
    Share your favourite episodes by tagging @about.the.adventure on Instagram @ABTheAdventure on Twitter, and use the hashtag #WildAboutKinder. Thank you!

    • 50 min
    Discovering the hidden secrets of Kinder Scout - Interview with Pete Wallroth

    Discovering the hidden secrets of Kinder Scout - Interview with Pete Wallroth

    Kinder Scout is a place steeped in memory, reflection and gratitude for Pete Wallroth. In this interview he shares his personal connection with the brooding landscape through family life, loss and grief.
    Pete loved walking on Kinder Scout with his late wife Mair, eventually prompting them to move to Glossop so that they could access Kinder Scout more easily. After her death at 41 he walked many of the same routes with his daughter in tow and now carrying her little brother too. In his grief and recovery he began running and his first forays into trail and fell running were to retrace and run those same routes that had brought them to the area in the first place. 
    Pete is the founder and CEO of the charity Mummy’s Star, set up in 2013 in memory of his wife Mair, to offer support to women diagnosed with cancer during pregnancy or within 12 months of having a baby. 
    This episode is dedicated to Pete’s late wife, Mair Wallroth. 
    Links
    Mummy’s Star charity
    Pete Wallroth on Twitter
    Pete Wallroth on Instagram
    Pete’s Kinder Scout story
    References
    Jen Scotney on Instagram
    Glossop Mountain Rescue Team
    Recording date
    This interview was recorded near Crowden Tower, Kinder Scout, on 7th December 2022.
    Host & Production
    By Sarah Lister, About The Adventure

    Contact the host
    You can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.

    Get involved with the conversation
    Send in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions.
    Share your favourite episodes by tagging @about.the.adventure on Instagram @ABTheAdventure on Twitter, and use the hashtag #WildAboutKinder. Thank you!

    • 52 min

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