Wild About Kinder

Sarah Lister

This is Wild About Kinder, the podcast for anyone curious about Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Each episode will bring you interviews with people who appreciate the Kinder Scout landscape. I will ask guests about why they love it here, what makes it special and unique to them, and how their personal experiences relate to a sense of connection. My aims are to create an accessible resource for people to listen to stories, to learn about important issues in a relatable and engaging way, and to bring together a feeling of community. There will be unique questions for each guest, but every person interviewed will be asked: "What makes you wild about Kinder Scout?" This will provide a nice collection of different responses throughout the making of the show. Alec Boyd and Gabby Wolstenholme from The Northern Project worked with me on series 1 of this podcast, which was supported by the Peak District National Park Communities Small Grants Scheme. The show is available to listen to completely free, anywhere that you can find podcasts. You can also download each episode as an MP3. read less
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Episodes

Kinder Scout: A hill that’s not about the summit - Interview with writer Andrew Terrill
20-03-2024
Kinder Scout: A hill that’s not about the summit - Interview with writer Andrew Terrill
“I love to imagine I’m back home on the hill that started it all for me, even though it’s worlds apart.” In this interview we listen to Andrew Terrill’s memories of walking, running and bivvying on Kinder Scout and why these experiences have had such a powerful and lasting impact in his life. He says that being in nature gave him the confidence to be himself.You’ll soon be able to tell that Andrew is a writer because of the way that he expresses himself and shares his anecdotes. He is a wonderful storyteller and reflects on his memories of Kinder with fondness. He says that he misses wandering in the mist, the sideways rain and the bogs squelching underfoot and being cold and damp.This interview is entertaining, heart-warming and inspiring. We hear from a man who shares openly and generously about how his journeys have changed him. There’s an air of curiosity and playfulness to his storytelling that I think you’ll find really engaging. Andrew has written two books: The Earth Beneath My Feet (published June 1, 2021) and On Sacred Ground (published October 1, 2022). The books take readers on a 7,000-mile wilderness walk into the heart of wild nature. He also writes regularly on his blog which he describes as an outdoor diary, and shares beautiful photography. LinksVisit Andrew’s websiteBuy his books Follow Andrew on InstagramFollow Andrew on FacebookContact Andrew hereReferencesArticle - An Ode to Kinder Scout(First published in TGO, August 2005)Mountain Walks Kinder Scout Blog article - Acting my ageKinder Log by T. Nelthorpe (Cicerone, 1987)Recording dateThis interview was recorded online on 21st February 2024.Host & ProductionBy Sarah Lister, About The AdventureContact the hostYou can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.Get involved with the conversationSend in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions.Subscribe to the newsletter and send in your contributions.Share your favourite episodes by tagging @about.the.adventure on Instagram @ABTheAdventure on Twitter, and use the hashtag #WildAboutKinder. Thank you!
Entering a different realm on the gnarly ground of Kinder Scout - Interview with musician Bella Hardy
09-02-2024
Entering a different realm on the gnarly ground of Kinder Scout - Interview with musician Bella Hardy
What does it smell like when you're sitting up on Kinder Scout Plateau? ‘Patron of the Bog’ Bella Hardy describes it as sweet and earthy. During this episode she shares memories of growing up in Edale, ‘beating the bounds’ with the local community, stories about sleeping dragons and giants from her childhood, and reflects on what makes her wild about Kinder. It’s a place that both inspires her music and gives her brain a break. You’ll hear Bella play the fiddle - ‘Broadlee Bank’ and ‘Crowden jig’ at the beginning and the end of this interview.Bella is a folk musician, with many of her songs inspired by the landscape and folk tales of the Peak District. The ‘Dark Peak and The White’ album is her first collection of music specifically from the area, with adaptations and new tunes to works from ‘The Ballads and Songs of Derbyshire’ published 1867, and original songs written for the history, folklore and legends of the area. Bella attended Edale CE Primary School and Hope Valley College and earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in English literature from York St John University in 2005 and a Master of Music degree from the University of Newcastle in 2007. You can read more about Bella on her website.Listen now to find out why Bella thinks Kinder Scout is a unique place.LinksBella’s websiteFollow Bella on InstagramListen to Bella’s songs on SpotifyFollow Bella on BandcampReferencesThe Dark Peak and The WhiteWith the dawnFirst light of the morningHares on the MountainLoving Hannah Africa’s Mountains of the moon by Guy YeomanMoors For The Future Recording dateThis interview was recorded at Bella’s home in Edale on 15th January 2024.Host & ProductionBy Sarah Lister, About The AdventureContact the hostYou can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.Get involved with the conversationSend in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions.Share your favourite episodes by tagging
Kinder Scout: the true understanding of sublime - Interview with writer Paul Besley and his dog Scout
18-12-2023
Kinder Scout: the true understanding of sublime - Interview with writer Paul Besley and his dog Scout
Kinder Scout is Paul’s favourite place. In this interview he describes why it’s special to him and why he thinks it’s loved by others. He poses the question: “How can something that has taken lives and can be so threatening and violent be beautiful?” Paul shares timeless stories and reflections that will both capture and hold your attention. If you’re familiar with the landscape and nature of Kinder then you’ll undoubtedly find yourself nodding and smiling to yourself while you listen. This will be an episode to return to time and time again, and will leave you wanting more!Paul Besley is a writer who lives in Sheffield. His books include, Day Walks in the South Pennines and 1001 Walking Tips for Vertebrate Publishing, and three Peak District guidebooks for Cicerone Press. He has also written for outdoor magazines. For many years Paul volunteered as a ranger for the Peak District National Park. He was also a team member of Woodhead Mountain Rescue, and a dog handler in Mountain Rescue Search Dogs England with his Border Collie, Scout. Listen now to find out why Paul thinks Kinder Scout is magical!LinksPaul Besley’s story about when he fell off a mountainPaul Besley on Mountain Walking Newbies podcast: Episode 1, Episode 2, Episode 3.ReferencesScout on Twitter and InstagramDoug Scott obituary in The GuardianHenry MooreMark RichardsCiceroneAndrew BeaversRecording dateThis interview was recorded inside a barn at Lee Farm along the start of the Pennine Way towards Jacobs Ladder on Kinder Scout, on Friday 3rd November 2023. Host & ProductionBy Sarah Lister, About The AdventureContact the hostYou can email
A mooch about Kinder Scout - Interview with Director of Creative Arts Wayne Fallon
28-09-2023
A mooch about Kinder Scout - Interview with Director of Creative Arts Wayne Fallon
Kinder Scout has a special place in Wayne’s psyche. When he was a child, his father would drive regularly along the snake pass. Due to unreliable automotive mechanics they often had to take pit stops along the pass. At the time he was reading passages of Lord of the Rings to Wayne and images of the misty Snake Wood and views of Fairbrook Naze made quite an impression on this estate kid from the North West. Since then, Wayne has had many adventures on Kinder Scout and he’s on a mission to represent this beguiling place in his artwork.In this interview, Wayne shares how terrifying tall tales and snatch sightings of Kinder Scout from afar captured his imagination and ignited his curiosity. He shares with us how, in contrast, he feels when he’s having a mooch and an amble on Kinder Scout these days; what he learns about the landscape by drawing it and how an appreciation of the practice of historical and contemporary landscape artists informs his thinking, painting and teaching practice. Wayne is Director of Creative Arts at Redhill Academy Trust and Head of Art at Brookfield Community School.This interview was recorded in four parts. We met at the Winter Gardens in Sheffield for coffee and lunch before heading to a Millenium Gallery store for a private tour of a selection of stunning landscape art exhibitions selected by Wayne. A few weeks later we met in Edale for a short walk on Kinder Scout where we recorded outside close to Jacob’s Ladder. Finally, we met at the Penny Pot Cafe in Edale for a sketching tutorial and lots of coffee! Wayne’s linksInstagram https://www.instagram.com/waynefallon/Twitter https://twitter.com/MrWFallonLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/wayne-fallon-55586a269/ReferencesMillennium Gallery in Sheffield https://www.sheffieldmuseums.org.uk/visit-us/millennium-gallery/Paul Henry - Rain on the bog paintingRobert Macfarlane “Wild Places”Simon Schama “Landscape and Memory”Peak District Artisans https://www.peakdistrictartisans.co.uk/Norman Ackroyd http://www.normanackroyd.com/John Newland https://www.birchamgallery.co.uk/catalogue/artist/John:Newland/biography/Heaton Cooper Gallery https://www.heatoncooper.co.uk/Penny Pot Cafe in Edale https://pennypotcafe.com/Recording datesThis interview was recorded at:Winter Gardens in Sheffield and Millennium Gallery store on 2nd August 2023Kinder Scout on 28th August 2023Penny Pot Cafe on 9th September 2023Host & ProductionBy Sarah Lister, About The AdventureContact the hostYou can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your feedback...
Exploring hags and groughs on Kinder Scout - Interview with Clare Kelly from Her on a Hill
04-07-2023
Exploring hags and groughs on Kinder Scout - Interview with Clare Kelly from Her on a Hill
Kinder Scout was Clare’s first ever walk in the Peak District and she’s been back many times  since then. In this interview she shares the joy that she feels while walking and teaching navigation here and what it’s like to bring other people here who don’t feel confident to explore alone.Clare is a qualified Mountain Leader and National Navigation Award Scheme Course Director. She has worked in the outdoor industry for over 20 years. She began her outdoor career working as a walking guide for Exodus, and later for Walking Women. In 2016, she set up Navigation for Women to help women develop new skills, gain confidence in their map and compass reading and put these skills into practice in the hills of the UK. Having long dreamt about running her own walking company for women, she set up Her on a Hill in 2019 to offer a range of guided walking holidays, navigation courses, and guided day walks and workshops.Listen now to find out what makes Clare feel wild about Kinder.LinksHer on a HillNavigation for WomenRecording dateThis interview was recorded at Madwoman’s Stones, Kinder Scout, on 16th June 2023.Host & ProductionBy Sarah Lister, About The AdventureContact the hostYou can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.Get involved with the conversationSend in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions.Share your favourite episodes by tagging @about.the.adventure on Instagram @ABTheAdventure on Twitter, and use the hashtag #WildAboutKinder. Thank you!
Discovering the hidden secrets of Kinder Scout - Interview with Pete Wallroth
27-02-2023
Discovering the hidden secrets of Kinder Scout - Interview with Pete Wallroth
Kinder Scout is a place steeped in memory, reflection and gratitude for Pete Wallroth. In this interview he shares his personal connection with the brooding landscape through family life, loss and grief.Pete loved walking on Kinder Scout with his late wife Mair, eventually prompting them to move to Glossop so that they could access Kinder Scout more easily. After her death at 41 he walked many of the same routes with his daughter in tow and now carrying her little brother too. In his grief and recovery he began running and his first forays into trail and fell running were to retrace and run those same routes that had brought them to the area in the first place. Pete is the founder and CEO of the charity Mummy’s Star, set up in 2013 in memory of his wife Mair, to offer support to women diagnosed with cancer during pregnancy or within 12 months of having a baby. This episode is dedicated to Pete’s late wife, Mair Wallroth. LinksMummy’s Star charityPete Wallroth on TwitterPete Wallroth on InstagramPete’s Kinder Scout storyReferencesJen Scotney on InstagramGlossop Mountain Rescue TeamRecording dateThis interview was recorded near Crowden Tower, Kinder Scout, on 7th December 2022.Host & ProductionBy Sarah Lister, About The AdventureContact the hostYou can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.Get involved with the conversationSend in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions.Share your favourite episodes by tagging @about.the.adventure on Instagram @ABTheAdventure on Twitter, and use the hashtag #WildAboutKinder. Thank you!
Interview with resident Edale farmer - Andrew Critchlow
20-01-2023
Interview with resident Edale farmer - Andrew Critchlow
How does Kinder Scout influence and impact the communities that live around it? In this interview we hear the perspective of a resident farmer in Edale. Andrew Critchlow shares fascinating historical information about Edale and Kinder Scout, his knowledge about farming, and his interest in land management. At the end he describes what makes him wild about Kinder Scout, and what his life here has taught him. While listening, you can experience atmospheric background sounds recorded from the area - headphones will be best for this.Andrew Critchlow is the county advisor of the Derbyshire branch of the National Farmers' Union (NFU), and a part-time farmer. He lives at Shaw Wood farm in Edale with his wife Anita, in the same home as where he grew up. Andrew went to Edale school, Hope Valley college, Lady Manners sixth form in Bakewell, and then to Nottingham University where he studied Agricultural Science. He lost his father in 1986 so he took on the farm with his mother when he was 20 years old. He modernised the farm, expanded the dairy herd, and in 1992 took on looking after Grindslow House farm for the Noel family until he decided to step back from full-time farming in 2006. Since then he has been representing the farming industry and agriculture in Derbyshire, including his work for the NFU since 2012.ReferenceNFUKinder Beer Barrel RaceCorrectionAndrew said the old sheep pens on the bottom of the moor were on the west side, it was in fact the east side of Crowden.Recording dateThis interview was recorded in Edale on 30th November 2022.Host & ProductionHost & Editor - Sarah Lister, About The AdventureArt designer - Alec Boyd, The Northern ProjectSupported by Peak District National ParkThis project is supported by the Peak District National Park Communities Small Grants Scheme.Contact the hostYou can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.Get involved with the conversationShare your thoughts by tagging @about.the.adventure and @peakdistrictnationalpark on Instagram @ABTheAdventure and @peakdistrict on Twitter, with the hashtag #WildAboutKinder.
Interview with photographer - John Beatty
05-10-2022
Interview with photographer - John Beatty
How do you feel when you’re walking on Kinder Scout? In this interview with photographer John Beatty he talks about how he interprets what he feels in a visual way. He shares the story behind his collaborative book with Ed Douglas: Kinder Scout - The People’s Mountain. You’ll also hear about his childhood memories of walking here, which parts of Kinder Scout he particularly appreciates, and why he thinks it’s much more than being a place. At the end John describes what makes him wild about Kinder Scout, closing with a beautiful quote. John Beatty is a nature, travel and adventure photographer. He has ventured across the world, returning with stories of his experiences of the wilderness which few have encountered. His books include The Pure Land: A Celebration of Wild Places, Sula: Seabird Hunters of Lewis, Wild Vision, and Kinder Scout - The People’s Mountain. He also publishes the annual Wild Nature Diary for the John Muir Trust. John lives in the Peak District where enjoys walking and cycling among his home moors.QuestionsWhat’s special about this bench that we’re sitting on?Is there a particular part of Kinder Scout that you think is really special?What about the seasons?What first brought you here?How did your photography come into it?As a photographer, how do you take photos of Kinder Scout and what you see here?What’s the story behind your collaborative book about Kinder Scout?Do you feel like you lose track of time when you're taking photographs?Do you think you would do another similar book about Kinder Scout?Why did you choose the title to be “The People’s Mountain”?How have you captured some of the wildlife on Kinder Scout?Are there any particular challenges that you’ve had to work through on Kinder Scout?Do you consider it a wild place?Is there one photo in your book that you think best represents your personal connection with this place?What makes you wild about Kinder Scout?ReferencesKinder Scout - The People’s MountainLinksJohn Beatty’s websiteRecording dateThis interview was recorded in Edale on 13th September 2022.Host & ProductionHost & Editor - Sarah Lister, About The AdventureArt designer - Alec Boyd, The Northern ProjectImagesArtwork photography provided by John Beatty.Supported by Peak District National ParkThis project is supported by the Peak District National Park Communities Small Grants Scheme.Contact the hostYou can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.Get involved with the conversationShare your thoughts by tagging @about.the.adventure and @peakdistrictnationalpark on Instagram @ABTheAdventure and
Interview with geologist and hill and moorland leader - Gemma Scougal
13-07-2022
Interview with geologist and hill and moorland leader - Gemma Scougal
Do you look at Kinder Scout in awe, wondering how the landscape was formed? In this interview with Gemma Scougal, we explore some of the geological features and the stories behind them. You’ll also hear about her first impression of Kinder Scout, how her passion for the outdoors has developed, why she decided to qualify as a Hill and Moorland Leader, and how she communicates her scientific knowledge in an engaging way when leading groups. At the end she describes what makes her wild about Kinder Scout. While listening, you can experience atmospheric background sounds recorded from the area - headphones will be best for this.Gemma is a professional geologist who, after a geology field trip to Castleton as an undergraduate, was thrilled when she moved closer to the Peak. She never gets bored of coming to Kinder; it’s full of wonderful stories to tell through geological, natural and human history. In 2018 she founded her side-hustle, WildWays, as a way to share her passion and enthusiasm for the outdoors with others, providing guided walks and navigation skills in the Peak District and South Yorkshire designed for all abilities.  As well as earth sciences, she loves running, road cycling, climbing and hill walking. QuestionsHow can you best describe your personal connection with Kinder Scout?How do you feel when you spend time here?When did you first come here and what was that experience like?How has your appreciation and passion for the outdoors developed?Where do you think is a good place for people to start if they haven’t grown up being outdoors a lot?Why did you decide to do Hill and Moorland Leader training?Did you already have quite a good knowledge of map and compass skills before you started?Where did your interest in geology begin?Can you share a bit of Kinder Scout’s geological story?How do you explain to people how the landscape has formed and what people can see?Have the boulders fallen down from somewhere?Do you expect this landscape to change over time?Can you explain a little bit more about what’s meant by delta?What’s beneath our boots when we’re walking on paths?Do you still feel a sense of awe even though you’ve studied geology and worked in the area?Why is this area referred to as the "Dark Peak"? How does it contrast to the White Peak?How do you bring your interest in earth science into your work as a Hill and Moorland Leader?How do people usually respond when you lead them on walks here?How do you communicate your knowledge in an engaging way?What questions do people ask you? What are they most curious about?Why is this a location that you think is particularly special?What makes you wild about Kinder Scout?Recording dateThis interview was recorded on Kinder Scout on 29th April 2022.Host & ProductionHost - Sarah Lister, About The AdventureLead editor - Gabby Wolstenholme, The Northern ProjectCoediter and art designer - Alec Boyd, The Northern ProjectSupported by Peak District National ParkThis project is supported by the Peak District National Park Communities Small Grants Scheme.LinksWildWays website
Interview with leader of Edale Mountain Rescue Team - Dave Torr
16-03-2022
Interview with leader of Edale Mountain Rescue Team - Dave Torr
What made the Team Leader of Edale Mountain Rescue Team (EMRT) smitten with Kinder Scout? Find out by listening to this interview with Dave Torr who describes his first encounter. You’ll also hear about how he got involved with EMRT, what types of incidents they usually deal with on Kinder, and why he chooses to dedicate his time to this volunteer service. At the end he describes what makes him wild about Kinder Scout. While listening, you can experience atmospheric background sounds recorded from the area - headphones will be best for this.Dave Torr became a trainee member of Edale Mountain Rescue Team in 2010, and was appointed team leader in March 2020. Prior to this, he worked for BT as a Senior Technician. In addition to his outdoor interests - which have included caving, climbing, walking, fell running and mountain biking - Dave taught Jiu Jitsu for 20 years as a 4th dan. In recent years, he has become a keen student of the history and archaeology of the Peak District’s Eastern Moors. He writes a blog on the history and archaeology of this area and runs a private Facebook group, "Big Moor Society'' which covers mainly the area of Big Moor on the eastern edges of the Peak District.Timestamps[0:00] - [0:58] Intro[0:59] - [2:49] Why did you choose this as our location?[2:50] - [7:06] What was it that first brought you to Kinder Scout and how was that first experience?[7:07] - [9:24] What was it that made you feel smitten with Kinder Scout?[9:25] - [12:00] What role has this place played in your life?[12:01] - [15:21] Why did you initially get involved with Edale Mountain Rescue?[15:22] - [17:36] What was the training and assessment like?[17:37] - [18:24] Was there a very long gap between the idea of volunteering and actually doing it?[18:25] - [20:30] Now that you’re a few years in, has it been as you expected it to be?[20:31] - [26:24] What are your responsibilities now as team leader?[26:25] - [29:23] What is it that makes you want to spend part of your retirement doing this?[29:24] - [30:40] How do you deal with the sadder side of things?[30:41] - [35:00] What sorts of challenges do people encounter on Kinder Scout?[35:01] - [39:28] Do you quite like that it’s a volunteer service?[39:29] - [41:27]Is it a good strong relationship between the teams?[41:28] - [42:14] Is funding pretty good at the moment? [42:15] - [45:58] When do you decide to call in a helicopter?[45:59] - [47:25] Are you in communication with the helicopters?[47:26] - [52:20] Have you had formal training for navigation?[52:21] - [53:35] Can you please share what it is that makes you wild about Kinder Scout?Recording dateThis interview was recorded on Kinder Scout on 20th December 2021.Host & ProductionHost - Sarah Lister, About The AdventureLead editor - Gabby Wolstenholme, The Northern ProjectCoediter and art designer - Alec Boyd, The Northern ProjectSupported by Peak District National ParkThis project is supported by the Peak District National Park Communities Small Grants Scheme.LinksEdale Mountain Rescue Team websiteMountain Rescue Website
Interview with Jody Vallance - Communication & Engagement Officer at Moors For The Future Partnership
18-01-2022
Interview with Jody Vallance - Communication & Engagement Officer at Moors For The Future Partnership
Discover the peat bogs and erosion gullies characteristic of Kinder Scout through the words of Jody Vallance, Communication & Engagement Officer at Moors For The Future Partnership. Listen to this interview to find out about Jody’s first experience and impression of Kinder Scout, why you might come across gully blocking materials such as piles of stones while walking up on the plateau, and how the Moors For The Future Partnership is working towards restoring and conserving its moorland landscape. At the end she describes what makes her wild about Kinder Scout. While listening, you can experience atmospheric background sounds recorded from the area - headphones will be best for this.Jody Vallance is a Communications and Engagement Officer at Moors For The Future Partnership based in Edale, Peak District. She has been in this role for five years and her work involves communicating about the amazing blanket bog habitat of the Peak District and South Pennines, and the work of the Partnership. She does this through face to face engagement at events with the Bogtastic Experience, walks and talks, as well as through digital channels and the press. Prior to that she worked for the National Trust and as a teacher. She grew up in the Peak District and enjoys cycling, running and walking.Timestamps[0:00 - 0.37 ] Intro[0.38 - 5:44] What’s your Kinder Scout story?[5:45 - 7:55] Who has inspired you to spend time here?[7:56 - 11:18] Do you think that people who come here to go walking know about the work that Moors For The Future are doing?[11:19 - 15:17] How would you describe Kinder Scout to somebody who has never been here before?[15:18 - 18:16] Can you share the story when you walked into the dark?[18:17 - 23:28] What information about Kinder Scout fascinates you?[23:29 - 26:39] Why is the work of Moors For The Future important for Kinder Scout?[26:40 - 33:56] What’s the job of the peat?[33:57 - 41:29]  What are the plastic structures and piles of stones that people might come across on Kinder?[41:30 - 45:58] How can people help to take care of this landscape and get involved?[45:59 - 48:18] Why did you choose to apply for a job at Moors For The Future?[48:19 - 50:34] What makes you wild about Kinder Scout?Recording dateThis interview was recorded on Kinder Scout on 4th November 2021.Host & ProductionHost - Sarah Lister, About The AdventureLead editor - Gabby Wolstenholme, The Northern ProjectCoediter and art designer - Alec Boyd, The Northern ProjectSupported by Peak District National ParkThis project is supported by the Peak District National Park Communities Small Grants Scheme.LinksMoors For The FutureReferencesNational TrustContact the hostYou can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.Get involved with the conversationShare your thoughts by tagging @about.the.adventure and
Interview with retired Peak District National Park ranger - Gordon Miller
24-10-2021
Interview with retired Peak District National Park ranger - Gordon Miller
Go behind the scenes to hear about the working life of retired Peak District National Park ranger Gordon Miller, who was the Area Ranger in Edale for over 30 years. Listen to this interview to find out what inspired him to dedicate his working life to the Park and ranger services, how he’s seen Kinder Scout change over time, and why he decided to live in Edale. At the end he describes what makes him wild about Kinder Scout. While listening, you can experience atmospheric background sounds recorded from the area - headphones will be best for this.*Gordon Miller is a retired Peak District National Park ranger, who was brought up in Stockport and first visited Kinder Scout on a camping trip in 1953. Brought up in urban Stockport, he decided in 1953 on a camping trip at the age of 12 that he wanted to work in the newly-formed Peak District National Park, and tagged along with wardens (as they were then called) until he could officially become a volunteer at 18. He became a full-time warden in 1969, and when the job-title changed to ranger in the 1970s he began to develop professionalism and begin international co-operation. Gordon pioneered many ranger training courses, working with experts at Losehill Hall, the Peak District National Park’s learning and conference centre, to develop professionalism in nature protection. He is a former chairman of the Association of Countryside Rangers and instigated exchange visits and seminars to help rangers in Europe to learn from each other. He went on to be a founder and president of The International Ranger Federation, founded on 31 July 1992 in the UK, which represents rangers in 50 countries. In 2009 he received the highest accolade awarded by the European Federation of National Parks for his outstanding role in strengthening ranger services worldwide. Gordon retired as a full-time Peak District ranger in 2002, after 33 years mostly responsible for the Kinder area around Edale in the heart of the national park, where he made his home in the 1960s. *Biography details have been taken from sections of an archived press release on the Peak District National Park website.Timestamps:[0:00 - 1:04] Intro[1:05 - 2:50] How do you remember your first ever experience on Kinder Scout?[2:51 - 3:45] Did that first experience spark something for you?[3:46 - 5:59] Can you remember what Kinder Scout looked like back then?[5:60 - 10:04]  Why did you decide to become a Peak District National Park ranger?[10:05 - 12:04] What did that training involve?[12:05 - 13:33] What do you think was the core reason that you wanted to take part in that type of work?[13:34 - 18:36] What was your life like during this role?[18:40 - 21:49] What key things have you learnt about the environment, the wildlife, and the communities that surround Kinder Scout?[21:50 - 23:17] How have you learnt about the environment and the wildlife here over the years?[23:18 - 25:01] How have you seen the area change over time?[25:02 - 26:14] Have there been any plants that you’ve seen pop up that are unusual?[26:15 - 27:35] What do you think are it’s most unique characteristics?[27:36 - 30:30] Can you please share a story that was particularly significant to you during your working life here?[30:31 - 32:16] Have you ever got into a pickle on Kinder Scout that you’ve learned from?[32:17 - 32:50] Have you ever got caught out in extreme weather conditions?[32:51 - 34:43] Why did you decide to live in Edale?[34:44 - 35:38] Has it been as you expected to live here?[35:39 - 36:08] Do you have a favourite place on Kinder Scout?[36:09 - 37:12]  Why is it so special to you?[37:13 -...